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what a horrible company!
*hugs* and I hope everything goes ok for you...
when I was a breakfast waitress I used to go in the pantry and eat cheese and freshly baked cakes!
Posted: 21:41 May 31 2002
Oooops, think I'm gonna get sacked!!!
Was working tonight and feeling kinda sick coz I was a bit hungry, so I got some pasta out of the fridge and started to eat it.
On closing the fridge door, who should be stood there but the store General Manager. EEEP
He asked me what I was eating, and with a mouthful I replied a bit of pasta.
Anyways, after nearly wetting myself (!), I got called to his office where he and the personnel manager were waiting for me. He asked me to explain myself, so I told him, I was feeling sick and just had to eat something.
He said what I had done was theft and was considered as gross misconduct and that I could be dismissed for it.
I have to see him on Monday with a representitve for a disciplinary hearing.....
This could spell the end of my 5 years with scummy Morrison's!!!
On closing the fridge door, who should be stood there but the store General Manager. EEEP
He asked me what I was eating, and with a mouthful I replied a bit of pasta.
Anyways, after nearly wetting myself (!), I got called to his office where he and the personnel manager were waiting for me. He asked me to explain myself, so I told him, I was feeling sick and just had to eat something.
He said what I had done was theft and was considered as gross misconduct and that I could be dismissed for it.
I have to see him on Monday with a representitve for a disciplinary hearing.....
This could spell the end of my 5 years with scummy Morrison's!!!
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and what a horrible company!
*hugs* and I hope everything goes ok for you...
when I was a breakfast waitress I used to go in the pantry and eat cheese and freshly baked cakes!
Posted: 21:41 May 31 2002 
That's terrible
To quote Mulan
"who spat in his bean curd?"
To quote Mulan
"who spat in his bean curd?"
Posted: 21:42 May 31 2002 
If its any consolation, I get a lot of calls from Managers/Area Managers from Morrisons in my job, and I can safely say that 9 out of 10 of them are a bunch of stuck up gits.
Sorry to hear that though, you do something to stop yourself being sick/ill/whatever, and they jump all over you..pfft
Sorry to hear that though, you do something to stop yourself being sick/ill/whatever, and they jump all over you..pfft
Posted: 22:23 May 31 2002 
That's bang out of order. Make sure you take someone you trust into the meeting, don't go on your own under any circumstances, and preferably someone who knows something about employment law. Don't suppose you're a member of a union?
Here's hoping it doesn't go too badly.
Here's hoping it doesn't go too badly.
Posted: 22:24 May 31 2002 
Well... you *didn't* pay for it before you took it, so they are right, it was theft, and they have every right to sack you.
Posted: 22:30 May 31 2002
shut up maffrew the girl was starving and not well, if the git had any heart he would have given her the opportunity to pay for it
Posted: 22:50 May 31 2002 Yes it was a bit silly of her but thats a bit strong Maff. Technically the food is still in the building and they dont know whether she was going to pay for it until she left so no it wasnt theft. A child could eat sweets in the supermarket and as long as you paid for it before you exited it isnt theft.
by Maffrew
Well... you *didn't* pay for it before you took it, so they are right, it was theft, and they have every right to sack you.
Anyway best of luck there Misskitty
Posted: 22:51 May 31 2002 
If you have a little tape recorder or whatever bring it with you. Even with a representative present it might be smart to actually tape this whole thing.
If you are pretty sure you are getting sacked don't be shy or whatever. Just go in there and say that you want to tape this conversation. Because its harder evidance than just someone that is representing you.
This means that in any case whatever happends you always have stronger evidance than just "someone's word against a managers". You kinda know how that goes
Also this makes them aware that you are infact in a strong position because everything they say will be on that tape.
Tiny little tip have the recorder running when you go into the room and ask if they have any objection of you taping this conversation. And if they have an objection don't back down because you are actually intitled to have someone present and everything that is said is about you and your behaviour in the workplace you don't see any reason why you shouldn't be able to tape it. And add the remark.... Why? Are you gonna say something that you might want to take back at a later point in time? (or something down that line) Also if they really don't want it present you atleast have the fact that they didn't want it present on tape if you ever want to go to a court over this (who knows) it can give the judge a pretty good idea of what was going on and give you a stronger position within the hearings. It raises a lot of questions especially the question "Why?".
If you feel you are getting fired than just try to cover all sides and protect yourself. And if they screw up in the little conversation and say certain things that aren't that polite etc... You have it on tape and than you can seek legal representation
Just keep in mind that they will have to watch what they do in there with a tape running..... It puts you in a way stronger position the tape kinda works as an equalizer.
One minor little tip: play it by this angle "What should i have done? Get sick and go home before being ill. I did what seemed best at the time I prevented me from getting ill and therefor not being able to preform my duties. I couldn't have gone to you and ask for it because before the time you would have talked to me I would have probably been sick all over you.... While i was handling the situation you interfeared and didn't even give me the time to report it afterwards that i had take the pasta and why.
If you had just observed the situation and at the end of my shift I wouldn't have reported me eating this pasta yes than I would have been stealing and this meeting would have been more than fair. But now I had the companies best interests at heart I tried to solve a situation as well as I possibly could have done (in my oppinion). And for having the companies best interest at heart you are now putting me through a disciplinary hearing?
I have been working here for 5 years now (or whatever time you have been working there) and I tried to do what is best for the company, I know it costs the company more to see me leaving because I'm ill than this piece of pasta that I would have reported after my work was over but didn't get the chance to (I would have bloody paid for it but didn't get the chance to). I think that you have threated me very unfairly in this situation and in my opinion this comes very close to miss management! And I think you should really reevaluate the amount of trust you have in your employees because I must say that this is in no way a bases for a healthy relationship. I'm actually wondering why I'm sitting on this side of the table and he or she isn't. etc etc....
Uhmm ok it got a bit longer than I thought. It just upsets me very much to see these kinda things happening to people. If they want to sack you a hearing like this won't change their minds but atleast you can give them a bloody good run for their money and maybe even put the person that caused all this mess some major trouble with his / her boss.
If they want to sack you what do you have to lose its not like they'll give you a good referance or whatever
(Edited by Chambler 31/05/2002 23:00)
If you are pretty sure you are getting sacked don't be shy or whatever. Just go in there and say that you want to tape this conversation. Because its harder evidance than just someone that is representing you.
This means that in any case whatever happends you always have stronger evidance than just "someone's word against a managers". You kinda know how that goes
Also this makes them aware that you are infact in a strong position because everything they say will be on that tape.
Tiny little tip have the recorder running when you go into the room and ask if they have any objection of you taping this conversation. And if they have an objection don't back down because you are actually intitled to have someone present and everything that is said is about you and your behaviour in the workplace you don't see any reason why you shouldn't be able to tape it. And add the remark.... Why? Are you gonna say something that you might want to take back at a later point in time? (or something down that line) Also if they really don't want it present you atleast have the fact that they didn't want it present on tape if you ever want to go to a court over this (who knows) it can give the judge a pretty good idea of what was going on and give you a stronger position within the hearings. It raises a lot of questions especially the question "Why?".
If you feel you are getting fired than just try to cover all sides and protect yourself. And if they screw up in the little conversation and say certain things that aren't that polite etc... You have it on tape and than you can seek legal representation
Just keep in mind that they will have to watch what they do in there with a tape running..... It puts you in a way stronger position the tape kinda works as an equalizer.
One minor little tip: play it by this angle "What should i have done? Get sick and go home before being ill. I did what seemed best at the time I prevented me from getting ill and therefor not being able to preform my duties. I couldn't have gone to you and ask for it because before the time you would have talked to me I would have probably been sick all over you.... While i was handling the situation you interfeared and didn't even give me the time to report it afterwards that i had take the pasta and why.
If you had just observed the situation and at the end of my shift I wouldn't have reported me eating this pasta yes than I would have been stealing and this meeting would have been more than fair. But now I had the companies best interests at heart I tried to solve a situation as well as I possibly could have done (in my oppinion). And for having the companies best interest at heart you are now putting me through a disciplinary hearing?
I have been working here for 5 years now (or whatever time you have been working there) and I tried to do what is best for the company, I know it costs the company more to see me leaving because I'm ill than this piece of pasta that I would have reported after my work was over but didn't get the chance to (I would have bloody paid for it but didn't get the chance to). I think that you have threated me very unfairly in this situation and in my opinion this comes very close to miss management! And I think you should really reevaluate the amount of trust you have in your employees because I must say that this is in no way a bases for a healthy relationship. I'm actually wondering why I'm sitting on this side of the table and he or she isn't. etc etc....
Uhmm ok it got a bit longer than I thought. It just upsets me very much to see these kinda things happening to people. If they want to sack you a hearing like this won't change their minds but atleast you can give them a bloody good run for their money and maybe even put the person that caused all this mess some major trouble with his / her boss.
If they want to sack you what do you have to lose its not like they'll give you a good referance or whatever
(Edited by Chambler 31/05/2002 23:00)
Posted: 22:57 May 31 2002
One of the women who works with me,Pauline, is the store Union rep, and I phoned her tonight to ask if she'd come in with me.
I told her that I'd been caught and she basically told me to get my story straight, lie if I have to, and make sure I tell her the story so she can put my case forward.
It's a bit worrying because when another woman in my department got caught, she had the whole disciplinary hearing and ended up with a final written warning, and the GM said if anyone else gets caught they will be sacked.
Pauline said though that every case is different and hopefully she will be able to get me off with the final written, and not to worry.
It's shook me up a bit though, I'll definitely not be eating stuff again now in a hurry. Better make sure I get brekkie *before* work tomorrow!
If I do get sacked, at least I'll be able to enjoy some of the bank holiday weekend anyway!!!
/me wanders off singing "Don't Worry Be Happy"....
I told her that I'd been caught and she basically told me to get my story straight, lie if I have to, and make sure I tell her the story so she can put my case forward.
It's a bit worrying because when another woman in my department got caught, she had the whole disciplinary hearing and ended up with a final written warning, and the GM said if anyone else gets caught they will be sacked.
Pauline said though that every case is different and hopefully she will be able to get me off with the final written, and not to worry.
It's shook me up a bit though, I'll definitely not be eating stuff again now in a hurry. Better make sure I get brekkie *before* work tomorrow!
If I do get sacked, at least I'll be able to enjoy some of the bank holiday weekend anyway!!!
/me wanders off singing "Don't Worry Be Happy"....
Posted: 23:15 May 31 2002 I never let my kids eat in the supermarket 'til I've paid for the food. Actually thats slightly untrue 'cos when B was a baby he used to eat the end of a french stick. What does annoy me (and yes I do think it counts as theft) is when the mother-out-law lets them eat grapes all the way round the store and then when they're weighed the bunch is 1/4 lb lighter. I *will* try an odd grape to see if they're juicy or not but not a whole handful.
by JtB
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A child could eat sweets in the supermarket and as long as you paid for it before you exited it isnt theft.
I have worked in a supermarket before and unfortunatly they do take a strong veiw on people doing what misskitty did. I'm not doubting your honesty in the slightest misskitty but they will probably say if you didn't get caught *would* you have paid for it? Not everyone would have (me included & I'll guess several others too
). Hope everything goes OK for you on Monday *hugs* Posted: 23:49 May 31 2002
Damn staraight, Gooner, if they payed her more money, she could afford to eat something before going to work...
Posted: 00:42 Jun 01 2002 By her own admission, she felt sick because she was hungry; this isn't the same as "I was ill and was trying to prevent my having to go home".
by Chambler
One minor little tip: play it by this angle "What should i have done? Get sick and go home before being ill. I did what seemed best at the time I prevented me from getting ill and therefor not being able to preform my duties. I couldn't have gone to you and ask for it because before the time you would have talked to me I would have probably been sick all over you.... While i was handling the situation you interfeared and didn't even give me the time to report it afterwards that i had take the pasta and why.
Also by her own admission, the General Manager already gave a warning that anyone else caught would be sacked.
So while I'm sympathetic because it's never nice being in cack at work, you did set yourself up for it. Still, hope it works out okay and you still have a job at the end of it.
Posted: 10:06 Jun 01 2002
Aww hun sorry to hear
I'm not gonna go into the yes you should be no you shouldnt argument , think we have enough of those going on LOL
Just sending you great big hugs hunny and all the best
I'm not gonna go into the yes you should be no you shouldnt argument , think we have enough of those going on LOL
Just sending you great big hugs hunny and all the best
Posted: 11:10 Jun 01 2002
sorry to hear that. but don't worry too much if you're jsut getting a verbal diceplinary hearing you shouldn't be sacked, at our place we get a verbal then two written warnings before getting sacked. hope it goes ok
Posted: 13:28 Jun 01 2002 Couldn't have said it better myself!!!!! Tell them to get lost Kitty.
by Gooner
tell him to sick his job up his arsenal
Hope all goes well, and remember it's their loss anyone hun
Posted: 14:37 Jun 01 2002
Try not to worry too much, (easier said than done) Thinking about it, I was wondering, if they give you a meal allowance, which is standard with most companies, and also if you get regular breaks, for eating/drinking/smoking e.t.c. As I'm sure you know thats law, if not then maybe you should bring it up at the hearing, and suggest they might want to consider it, after all if some-else was caught before, then they obviously aren't keeping there staff happy.
If they do sack you, then remember it's THIER loss, not yours!!
to Morrisons!
Good Luck & Hugs
If they do sack you, then remember it's THIER loss, not yours!!
to Morrisons!Good Luck & Hugs
Posted: 15:22 Jun 01 2002
Was speaking to Ian, the supervisor today, and he said our manager has been talking to him about it. She reckons that the GM will definitely sack me.
Who knows, Pauline's busy working on it for me, gonna ring her in a bit. In the mean time I am cheering myself up with double chocolate chip cookies and, yes, I did pay for 'em!!
Who knows, Pauline's busy working on it for me, gonna ring her in a bit. In the mean time I am cheering myself up with double chocolate chip cookies
and, yes, I did pay for 'em!!
Posted: 15:57 Jun 01 2002 [ 1 2 ]