OK. Actually, Woodgate's from the youth system at Leeds (although a Middlesboro-ite by birth). The two dirty 'players' I was referring to were Mills (a true thug) and Bowyer, although I don't think he is actually that dirty a player on the pitch. As for the whole Majeski farago, all I know is that I wasn't there and most of the evidence was circumstancial. The court found insufficient evidence to find Bowyer guilty of anything, and only enough to believe Woodgate was at the scene of the crime and did not help the victim, and may have incited the violence. I'm not saying they didn't do it - I couldn't possibly know that. I can only go by the court's decision, and I'm just glad I didn't have to be on the jury for that one. As far as I'm aware there has been no suggestion that the case was rigged or of any misjustice.

Anyway, I thought we were on about football here.

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by Gooner
and hopefully the scum relegated

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You know that ain't going to happen mate

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by ..
You know that ain't going to happen mate

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Ah but in my dreams it does matey, how u doiidling anyhoo

Up the Toon Army!!

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by Gooner
the thieving scouse scallys next

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Still bitter about Cardiff?

*smerk*

Certainly is exciting this season.

United to retain their trophy.

From the games left, i'd give it to Arsenal.

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by Jayjay
The court found insufficient evidence to find Bowyer guilty of anything, and only enough to believe Woodgate was at the scene of the crime and did not help the victim, and may have incited the violence.

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Let's not forget the judge's comments that they were "a thug and a liar" and Bowyer's subsequent refusal to pay his club fine (I have always maintained in any case that the whole affair was simply Bowyer arriving *very* late for a tackle).

I think you can legitimately add Alan 'is this your leg' Smith, Seth Johnson, David Batty and Ian Harte to Bowyer and Mills as thugs.

I don't remember Woodgate being particularly violent on the pitch.

However, lets not forget that Leeds are officially the dirtiest team in the Premiership closely followed by Arsenal (or it may be vice versa I forget). Interestingly, whilst Leeds and Arsenal find kicking opponents to be a vital part of their robust approach to the game, both Man Utd and Liverpool (the best disciplinary record in the league) seem to manage to win games without attempting to injure the opposing team.

And while I am at it ... O'Leary has dropped so far in my estimation with his pathetic whining and excuses (try losing your manager to a major heart problem) this season that he may emerge in Australia at any second whilst Wenger's selective myopia regarding his players should be the subject of a medical journal.

/me pops head into this topic ...then runs away screaming arghhhhhhhhh Footy

I think, unfortunately for my team, the most likely result is Arsenal and Man United as the top two, with Arsenal probably shading it as the champions.

As for relegation, Leicester are pretty much certainties, and I think they'll be joined by Bolton and Everton.

Okay..i'm only going to say this once... and i was hoping i wasn't going to have to ....

This is about football... about possible Premiership winners.. and while healthy debate is good, I am asking you all to be nice about other teams, whether you support them, respect them or hate them... this thread won't descend into a slanging match (pardon the pun) about players, teams etc.. so no insults please.. if you can't find anything nice/ constructive to post about.. please don't post at all. Past history with these threads has shown this

I Hope that it is Man U because my father placed a bet with ex Man City Player Gary Owen (Century FM, Manchester) for £50, odds 5:1 that United not Arsenal would win. Then Gary mentioned the incident on his radio show! :O

my father was drunk @ the time in a pub in Manchester.

(Edited by Barbara 08/03/2002 20:38)