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by Chambler
Have you ever seen a cat play with a mouse? It's pure torture and it's certainly not for feeding at all (as I guess the food we give them is a lot tastier). It's just pure enjoyment for a cat. Slamming your claw into it than letting it go and just before it gets out of reach slam it again and pull it back until eventually the mouse dies....Same with little birds...

Normal pet dogs chasing rabbits in a field..... it's not like they have to do it for food and they will kill it but not eat it in most cases that i've seen.

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Yes but that is normal animal instinctive behaviour, Humans are meant to be more evolved and should be past it.

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by Chambler
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Have you ever seen a cat play with a mouse? It's pure torture and it's certainly not for feeding at all (as I guess the food we give them is a lot tastier). It's just pure enjoyment for a cat. Slamming your claw into it than letting it go and just before it gets out of reach slam it again and pull it back until eventually the mouse dies....Same with little birds...

Normal pet dogs chasing rabbits in a field..... it's not like they have to do it for food and they will kill it but not eat it in most cases that i've seen.

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But thats trained/evolved behaviour. Do you think that dogs have always been domesticated? Also you can kill a dog by over-feeding it. Want to prove it. Take as much dog-food as you can find and put it in a bowl. A dog will eat until it physically cannot eat anymore because part of an animals instinct is to eat while you can as you never know where your next meal is coming from.

The cat thing is not the cat playing. A cat won't have the understanding of life and death that humans do. If a cat catches a mouse/bird for food when it hits it, it expects the animal to stop moving. When it moves again the cat hits it again, think we'd enjoy eating Big Mac's if they kept crawling off the plate . It's more a lack of killer instinct in the cat than the fact that he wants to 'play'. Again it comes down to the animal instinct of eat now as you don't know where your next meal is coming from.

MY friend heard this on her local news in Lancashire yesterday..im disgusted at the attitude of these so called protectors of the countryside

'I heard tonight on the news that four baby fox cubs have been left, dead and mutilated, outside an RSPCA centre. The cubs were about 5 months old and it is thought to be the work of the local pro-fox hunting brigade who are upset that the RSPCA has been backing the government stance against them. The cubs all had bite marks on them and one had been gutted. I am sorry if this shocks anyone (it appalled me!) but this is the mind set of these so-called believers in democracy.These foxes were bred to train the dogs and killed by yound dogs who didnt kill straight away as was evident by the wounds on the foxes bodies'

what a lovely bunch of people.

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by nemesis
MY friend heard this on her local news in Lancashire yesterday..im disgusted at the attitude of these so called protectors of the countryside

'I heard tonight on the news that four baby fox cubs have been left, dead and mutilated, outside an RSPCA centre. The cubs were about 5 months old and it is thought to be the work of the local pro-fox hunting brigade who are upset that the RSPCA has been backing the government stance against them. The cubs all had bite marks on them and one had been gutted. I am sorry if this shocks anyone (it appalled me!) but this is the mind set of these so-called believers in democracy.These foxes were bred to train the dogs and killed by yound dogs who didnt kill straight away as was evident by the wounds on the foxes bodies'

what a lovely bunch of people.

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What a way to make a point It's things like this that set peoples minds against fox hunting.

I grew up in the country, and whilst I am happy in the knowledge that a fox is a predator (doing what is natural to it) and that a farmer wants it not to eat his chickens &c., one point no-one has ever raised is how bloody inefficient it is. How many tens of hounds and tens of horses, just to kill one fox? And as far as I know the hunt in my village only goes out twice a year. So yeah, all that is really keeping the fox population down
If fox hunting were business, hunts would have gone bust years ago, pushed out by the leaner, more efficient competition (one man and his gun would kill a lot more foxes a lot quicker). No-one ever seems to mention this, and the whole debate is caught up in the "you just think a fox is a fluffy animal" slanging match. Going out on a hunt in the way that is done now - dressing up, making a day of it, hell, even (rather vile) 'blooding' any new members of the hunt - is the thing that really sticks in my craw about it. It's fetishising and enjoying the violence done to another creature. By all means, practise pest control - but why dress up in hunting pinks and have a piss-up afterwards to do so??

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by Bee
I grew up in the country, and whilst I am happy in the knowledge that a fox is a predator (doing what is natural to it) and that a farmer wants it not to eat his chickens &c., one point no-one has ever raised is how bloody inefficient it is. How many tens of hounds and tens of horses, just to kill one fox? And as far as I know the hunt in my village only goes out twice a year. So yeah, all that is really keeping the fox population down
If fox hunting were business, hunts would have gone bust years ago, pushed out by the leaner, more efficient competition (one man and his gun would kill a lot more foxes a lot quicker). No-one ever seems to mention this, and the whole debate is caught up in the "you just think a fox is a fluffy animal" slanging match. Going out on a hunt in the way that is done now - dressing up, making a day of it, hell, even (rather vile) 'blooding' any new members of the hunt - is the thing that really sticks in my craw about it. It's fetishising and enjoying the violence done to another creature. By all means, practise pest control - but why dress up in hunting pinks and have a piss-up afterwards to do so??

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sssshhh that that there is common sense talking.....they dont want people to hear that..

Pro-hunting people have been dumping dead animals around Brighton today including a dead horse near the station and a dead cow near the Brighton Centre. These people are blood thirsty scum. (IMHO)

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by Kneon Light
Pro-hunting people have been dumping dead animals around Brighton today including a dead horse near the station and a dead cow near the Brighton Centre. These people are blood thirsty scum. (IMHO)

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They really are making a great case for themselves as decent people arent they?....