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Thanks for starting this one By, you're right, we probably should have had this up and running a short while back.
Posted: 21:09 Nov 14 2004
Remberance Sunday
A little belated, but I feel we should have a thread to mark the day.
The Parable of the Old Man and the Young, Wilfred Owen
So Abram rose, and clave the wood, and went,
And took the fire with him, and a knife.
And as they sojourned both of them together,
Isaac the first-born spake and said, My Father,
Behold the preparations, fire and iron,
But where the lamb, for this burnt-offering?
Then Abram bound the youth with belts and straps,
And builded parapets and trenches there,
And stretched forth the knife to slay his son.
When lo! an Angel called him out of heaven,
Saying, Lay not thy hand upon the lad,
Neither do anything to him, thy son.
Behold! Caught in a thicket by its horns,
A Ram. Offer the Ram of pride instead.
But the old man would not so, but slew his son,
And half the seed of Europe, one by one.
The Parable of the Old Man and the Young, Wilfred Owen
So Abram rose, and clave the wood, and went,
And took the fire with him, and a knife.
And as they sojourned both of them together,
Isaac the first-born spake and said, My Father,
Behold the preparations, fire and iron,
But where the lamb, for this burnt-offering?
Then Abram bound the youth with belts and straps,
And builded parapets and trenches there,
And stretched forth the knife to slay his son.
When lo! an Angel called him out of heaven,
Saying, Lay not thy hand upon the lad,
Neither do anything to him, thy son.
Behold! Caught in a thicket by its horns,
A Ram. Offer the Ram of pride instead.
But the old man would not so, but slew his son,
And half the seed of Europe, one by one.
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Posted: 21:09 Nov 14 2004
Sixth Form did 2 mins silence in Assembly last week but on the 11th we weren't allowed to stop lessons to do the silence - disgusting! I have to say I got a bit teary whilst doing it. Bought myself a poppy, and I normally buy a white poppy which represents every person who has fallen in war. On Sunday I forgot the silence, so angry! 
(Edited by lizzieslayer 15/11/2004 15:34)
(Edited by lizzieslayer 15/11/2004 15:34)
Posted: 15:33 Nov 15 2004 
That's well out of order they didn't hold a silence on the 11th. What's armistice day to leage tables I guess.
Been interested for a while where you get white poppies from? The only place I've found is direct from the Peace Pledge Union in boxes of 100!
Been interested for a while where you get white poppies from? The only place I've found is direct from the Peace Pledge Union in boxes of 100!
Posted: 20:02 Nov 15 2004
Our Amnesty International school group sold them (I used to be a member).
I was really disgusted, it's only 2 minutes, and during those two minutes how much teaching would actually get done anyway?!
I was really disgusted, it's only 2 minutes, and during those two minutes how much teaching would actually get done anyway?!
Posted: 21:27 Nov 15 2004
Thats so wrong of your school 
Probably because my schools really old fashioned, we had 2 minutes silence on the 11th, and then on the Sunday I held another 2 minutes silence.
You would've thought with some people in this country being sent to war at the moment that this year people would have marked the occasion even more. I went to Ypres last year to look at all the graves and the trenches, and that's really stuck with me to mark the occasion.
Probably because my schools really old fashioned, we had 2 minutes silence on the 11th, and then on the Sunday I held another 2 minutes silence.
You would've thought with some people in this country being sent to war at the moment that this year people would have marked the occasion even more. I went to Ypres last year to look at all the graves and the trenches, and that's really stuck with me to mark the occasion.
Posted: 11:00 Nov 16 2004 
I was out in the freezings on Sunday in Dorchester doing our annual parade there (I always say I'll take a vest, but I always forget...)
There was a lot of discussion as to whether it was 1 min or 2 mins on Sunday - but it was eventually worked out that it was 2 mins on the 11th, 1 on the nearest Sunday, and always 2 at the Cenotaph in London.
I always get a white poppy and a red poppy, on the basis that I don't feel that remembering the dead and hoping there will be no more are in any way incompatible. I get mine from the local Quaker shop...
There was a lot of discussion as to whether it was 1 min or 2 mins on Sunday - but it was eventually worked out that it was 2 mins on the 11th, 1 on the nearest Sunday, and always 2 at the Cenotaph in London.
I always get a white poppy and a red poppy, on the basis that I don't feel that remembering the dead and hoping there will be no more are in any way incompatible. I get mine from the local Quaker shop...
Posted: 13:47 Nov 16 2004
Nice third way Bee! 
Was under the impression the white poppy commemorated the war dead AND hoped for no more war. Is this not the case?
Was under the impression the white poppy commemorated the war dead AND hoped for no more war. Is this not the case?
Posted: 22:10 Nov 16 2004 Well, I thought that too. But having been harangued by people on the street, and seen other people harangued, for being disrespectful, I just give up and wear both, to make assurance doubly sure...
by Byron
Was under the impression the white poppy commemorated the war dead AND hoped for no more war. Is this not the case?
Posted: 15:34 Nov 17 2004
If they have to harass people in the street -- and they bloody well shouldn't, cos forced rememberance is a contradiction in terms -- why not go after the majority who don't wear *anything* to mark the Armistice. Whatever one thinks of the white poppies, at least they're taking note of the day.
Oh yeah, a minority standing out from the crowd make much easier targets don't they.
Oh yeah, a minority standing out from the crowd make much easier targets don't they.
Posted: 16:24 Nov 17 2004