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Yeah, great film, scared me as a kid though!
by Julz
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anyone else remember her from 'Labyrinth'? I loved that film
She's really good in Requiem For a Dream (but what a depressing film....)
Posted: 23:24 Mar 25 2002
The Oscars
So what did you think? Did those who won deserve it?
Personaly I'm glad that LOTR didn't win best picture, glad that Ron Howard finally won something (2 in one night) and the total shock on Halle Berrys face when she won Best Actress was without a doubt the best moment. If I was Nicole Kidman I would have wore a better dress to stick 2 fingers up to Tom Cruise - what the hell was her stylish thinking??? Julia Roberts was fantastic and I would so love to go out for a night with her and get drunk - tonight I had to settle for Yvonne instead
It was a very odd feeling knowing that all this was going on less than a mile from where we are staying.
Personaly I'm glad that LOTR didn't win best picture, glad that Ron Howard finally won something (2 in one night) and the total shock on Halle Berrys face when she won Best Actress was without a doubt the best moment. If I was Nicole Kidman I would have wore a better dress to stick 2 fingers up to Tom Cruise - what the hell was her stylish thinking??? Julia Roberts was fantastic and I would so love to go out for a night with her and get drunk - tonight I had to settle for Yvonne instead
It was a very odd feeling knowing that all this was going on less than a mile from where we are staying.
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She's really good in Requiem For a Dream (but what a depressing film....)
Posted: 23:24 Mar 25 2002 
You know, I agree with you to a point. I also thought she was a bit over the top with all the crying and everything. And I remember rolling my eyes a bit after the display went on for a while.
by Whistler
Halle - it's an Oscar award, get over it!
I've never seen a more pitiful sight!
But on the other hand, she was the first African-American actress to ever win the best actress award. No doubt she was thinking of all that history, and the difficulty African-American actresses have getting quality roles in Hollywood, even today, and what it meant for her to be the one to finally break through the barrier of winning that Oscar. Yes, perhaps the crying jag was a bit much. You're right. But maybe you have to be an African-American actress in the movie industry to understand her emotion.
Posted: 23:29 Mar 25 2002 
That's a fair point
by Sandia
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But maybe you have to be an African-American actress in the movie industry to understand her emotion.
(Edited by Whistler 25/03/2002 23:32)
Posted: 23:32 Mar 25 2002 
Personally I thought Lord of the Rings deserved Best Picture *or* Best Director at least ... the both would have been nice. I saw the film at the cinema and I was blown away - I'd never read the books and only had limited knowledge of the storyline and really thought it was fantastic. I can only presume that either the oscar pickers are really dumb or just trying to spread the awards a little thin among the *best of the rest*
by Incandenza
I can't remember the last time I sat there nodding to myself that 'Yes, that really was the best film of last year, they really hit the nail on the head there.'
Ron Howard is a good director so
Either that or they are thinking ahead to the fact there are 2 more film releases, and assuming there are some duff films next year they will probably then hit part 2 with every award possible.
Good to see Shrek picking up an award though .. that was one humourous movie.
Posted: 01:50 Mar 26 2002
And not a nomination for 'The Man Who Wasn't There' in sight, never mind an award. 
Posted: 02:02 Mar 26 2002 Sandia, you took Whistler's words right out of my mouth.
by Sandia
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But on the other hand, she was the first African-American actress to ever win the best actress award. No doubt she was thinking of all that history, and the difficulty African-American actresses have getting quality roles in Hollywood, even today, and what it meant for her to be the one to finally break through the barrier of winning that Oscar. Yes, perhaps the crying jag was a bit much. You're right. But maybe you have to be an African-American actress in the movie industry to understand her emotion.
And I don't think Halle Berry expected to win because Sissy Spacek had the big buzz and thus maybe she wasn't so emotionally prepared. While an African-American actress would've won sometime in the next 74 years, I wouldn't have picked Halle Berry to break that barrier, since a) she's young; b) she's a glamour-puss, not an "ack-tor"; and c)it's her first nomination. Though the Academy's been liking the young ones lately, what with Gwyneth Paltrow, Hilary Swank and Julia Roberts, so that's apparently a no longer reliable rule.Oh, and as you might guess from the fact that I didn't mention the merit of Berry's performance, I don't think anyone who's a true Oscar Geek expects them to be an award of merit. (A species of the broader genus of Film Geek, who still holds out hope that the best films will win. I'm looking at you, Incandenza.
) Regretably, I am a true Oscar Geek; at one point during law school, I could tell you who won in most of the major categories every year since 1927. Please don't laugh and point. It's rude to mock the impaired.The "rules" of the Academy are far more important than critical mass or merit. Oscars are also a product of their times, and almost more interesting for sociological reasons than for artistic reasons.
An example of Oscar "rules": Someone playing a disabled or handicapped character is automatically in the lead for a Best Actor/Actress. UNLESS--you're Sean Penn, in which case the Academy doesn't like you because you haven't bothered to show up to the ceremony the previous times you've been nominated. OR you're Russell Crowe, and you recently roughed up a BAFTA guy. And you frowned a lot and didn't act like it was a big deal when you got it last year, and we don't reward those kinds of behavior around here mister, just see if we do.
An example of Oscar being a product of the times: 'Citizen Kane' got best screenplay (I think) in 1941. 'How Green Was My Valley' got Best Picture that year. Which was ultimately more influential? 'Citizen Kane' of course. Which was a more important question to Academy voters in 1941 when America was coming out of the Depression, oppressive labor policies or finding a sled?
Oh, and Vong, I apologize if this was too lengthy of an analysis I've subjected you too. However, I'm assuming that anyone who checks out a thread entitled "The Oscars" has some tolerance for lengthy, boring things.
(Edited by Diandra 26/03/2002 06:28)
Posted: 06:15 Mar 26 2002 
Umm no he isn't, he's not making you do anything!
by Vong
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And yet you make us sit through an agonisingly long analysis of it...
If you don't give a hoot about it then you don't have to read it then do you?
Or, indeed "wot she said"
by Diandra
Oh, and Vong, I apologize if this was too lengthy of an analysis I've subjected you too. However, I'm assuming that anyone who checks out a thread entitled "The Oscars" has some tolerance for lengthy, boring things.
(Edited by Stoo 26/03/2002 10:42)
Posted: 10:36 Mar 26 2002
Oh I liked the oscars! I am also glad that LotR didnt win it all... I mean.. they'll have 2 more chances with the others parts and that way other movies got something aswell. And beautiful mind *is* a damn good movie! I got to agree with Teresa: Halle Berry just blew me away.
I honestly sat infront of the TV and was *that* close to crying. The shock on her face and how she just didnt seem to realise it.. that was simply *real*. When Gwyneth Paltrow and Julia Roberts won, I was really happy for them aswell.. and I simply loved Julia getting her oscar and how she reacted. But Halle *so* didnt expect it. For her it was *big*. There werent a lot of blacks who won the oscar sofar, so it really meant something to them.
I am just sad that "Amelié" didnt win best foreign picture. That movie was sooo good!
(Edited by sara-angel 26/03/2002 13:21)
I honestly sat infront of the TV and was *that* close to crying. The shock on her face and how she just didnt seem to realise it.. that was simply *real*. When Gwyneth Paltrow and Julia Roberts won, I was really happy for them aswell.. and I simply loved Julia getting her oscar and how she reacted. But Halle *so* didnt expect it. For her it was *big*. There werent a lot of blacks who won the oscar sofar, so it really meant something to them.
I am just sad that "Amelié" didnt win best foreign picture. That movie was sooo good!
(Edited by sara-angel 26/03/2002 13:21)
Posted: 13:19 Mar 26 2002 I understood your point
by Vong
And yet you make us sit through an agonisingly long analysis of it...
Posted: 13:56 Mar 26 2002 Time to visit the doctor about those haemharroids, methinks...
by Vong
And yet you make us sit through an agonisingly long analysis of it...
Posted: 15:13 Mar 26 2002
by Vong
And yet you make us sit through an agonisingly long analysis of it...
by Whistler
LMAO!!
My bad. I mistook this for a discussion forum.
by Red
I understood your point
Posted: 16:13 Mar 26 2002
Oh, it is. And in this thread people are, or certainly were, discussing the Oscars
Saying you try to ignore something, then posting 19 lines about it? Kind of a contradiction. The point Vong was making. I understood it. Whistler, it appears, found it funny.
No-ones 'bad'. It clearly just needed clarifying
Saying you try to ignore something, then posting 19 lines about it? Kind of a contradiction. The point Vong was making. I understood it. Whistler, it appears, found it funny.
No-ones 'bad'. It clearly just needed clarifying
Posted: 16:39 Mar 26 2002 
Well me and Wmply Willow watched it all and I think that Halle Berry's acceptance speech was very heartfelt and much better than last years when Julia Roberts couldn't even be bothered to namecheck the woman who she actually portrayed in the film! 
I wasn't expecting Russ (makes me sound like I know him personally!) to get best actor, I think they are beginning to tire of his "straight arrow" approach, Hollywood is very sycophantic don't forget! He will have to do damage control for some time after the Brits! Denzel is a superb actor and that was a wonderful speech.
Never in a million years did I think that LoTR would get best movie and I wasn't disappointed! Also Moulin Rouge was another "fantasy" film and Hollywood do like their worthy movies. Mind you I will be going to see "A Beautiful Mind" at some point!
But yay for the Brits who won!
I wasn't expecting Russ (makes me sound like I know him personally!) to get best actor, I think they are beginning to tire of his "straight arrow" approach, Hollywood is very sycophantic don't forget! He will have to do damage control for some time after the Brits! Denzel is a superb actor and that was a wonderful speech.
Never in a million years did I think that LoTR would get best movie and I wasn't disappointed! Also Moulin Rouge was another "fantasy" film and Hollywood do like their worthy movies. Mind you I will be going to see "A Beautiful Mind" at some point!
But yay for the Brits who won!
Posted: 17:27 Mar 26 2002
i managed to watch the repeat on bbc1 and halle berry's speech was so good. and to me genuine. the tears were natural as was the emotion unlike ol Paltrow last year, who should have won an oscar for best melodrama for her speech!
I'm sad LOTR didn't win any major awards, i'm hoping their gonna hold back till the final film comes out and then it'll get the good ones, at least best director. here's hoping
it was wonderful to see Sidney Poitier get an award. my dad loves him and i was brought up on many of his films. a wonderful actor that deserved an award at last!
it seemed it was the year of acknowledging the african- american in the film industry this year, and a good thing at that!
I'm sad LOTR didn't win any major awards, i'm hoping their gonna hold back till the final film comes out and then it'll get the good ones, at least best director. here's hoping
it was wonderful to see Sidney Poitier get an award. my dad loves him and i was brought up on many of his films. a wonderful actor that deserved an award at last!
it seemed it was the year of acknowledging the african- american in the film industry this year, and a good thing at that!
Posted: 20:54 Mar 26 2002 
I read Halles speech in The Sun today (the peoples paper), and although I didn't see it, but it looks heartfelt.
However I do get my information from serveral sources.
However I do get my information from serveral sources.
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