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by head2head
Eliza is definitely making a re-appearance next season. Sci Fi Wire have confirmed it

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YES!!!!!

Hope this OK...

www.head2headweb.co.uk/news/news.php?id=23

SPOILER ALERT! SPOILER ALERT!

Just watched the season premiere so I can confirm "rumors" ... (and answer questions that peeps may have)

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by Callum
Sunnydale High re-opens on the site of the original, all goes swimmingly until people start seeing dead people. Dawn joins up with two other students at the school (Kit (goth) and Carlos (bully), both reccuring characters) and some ex-burger-flipper ninja-cheerleader turned school outreach-PTA-type-person, to fend off the demons.

The new principle is an nice, attractive, youngish black guy who knows about Buffy's past. Goody? Baddy? Who knows.

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I can confirm that Sunnydale High reopens on the same site, and there are sightings of (creepy) dead people. Both Buffy and Dawn carry cell phones now, so when they get separated and Dawn gets in trouble (must be Tuesday lol) it scares off said dead baddies... The principal *is* attractive (tho a bit creepy). He admits to Buffy that he was told to "read her file" but he then offers her a job as peer counsellor.

mmmmmm wait til you see spike's hair mmmmmmsexy It appears he has that "tortured soul" like angel did when he first turned from Angelus to Angel.

Buffy is training dawn and for those who care, she has a "grown-up" top on (and has obviously -ahem- *grown* over the summer). And she's not whiny (thank god!)

Bunch of ex-baddies appear in this episode: Warren, Glory, the (ex)mayor, Adam, the Master, even Dru. no tara sorry and no faith sightings either (give it time )

Confused about the opening sequence in "Istanbul". No familiar characters involved so don't know the purpose. Time will tell.

Gonna watch the show again soon so I can think of something else to post here. If you have any questions ask away

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by Persephone
Just watched the season premiere so I can confirm "rumors"

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I take it the wild feed's available then

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Confused about the opening sequence in "Istanbul". No familiar characters involved so don't know the purpose. Time will tell.

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I think this is related to the slayers-in-training stuff.

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by Callum
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I think this is related to the slayers-in-training stuff.

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there's a bunch of cloaked figures (can't tell if they're men or women) and they chase and kill an unarmed woman can't see how it relates to slayers in training *shrug*

Maybe the dead unarmed woman was a "slayer in traning" who didn't do enough training? Or was she too old? or.. or.. ?

Naa, the actress got too big for her boots and asked for too much money

Read this on alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer newsgroup....

During the opening chase scene in Istanbul, there was a very brief shot
> > >of what appeared to be a blond haired man standing in a doorway.
> > >I played back my tape in slo-mo and paused it. I couldn't make a
positive
> > >I.D. but It could possibly have been Spike. I thought it was odd to
see
> > that
> > >in the scene, it didn't seem to fit. It was only for a fraction of a
> > second,
> > >and
> > >then the camera switched again. If you haven't seen this, go back and
> > >watch your tape.


Thinking back then I DO remember a door, and someone standing there. I just figured it was a scared civilian. On another newsgroup message there's a spoiler that says more of this scene will be revealed with each episode. Interesting.

Other msgs on the newsgroup suggest that each of the baddies are actually one shapeshifter and that Spike is collaborating with it. hmmmm this just gets better and better The more I read, the more I *wanna* read.

Also wondering why Spike is now residing in the high school basement. What happened to his crypt? Maybe Clem refuse to move out lol.

I figured the opening Istanbul scene was a slayer in training that obviously wasn't good enough. Perhaps the cloak guys were the acolytes of some new baddy.

I guess they'll have to show up again soon enough! Like the commandos did in S4.

and finally Mmmmmmmmnew-headteacher.

I watched the second Buffy 7 ep last night. The catchphrase of the ep would definitely have to be... "from beneath you, it devours". Talking about the giant worm of course, although there is a big baddie on the way and *everybody* knows it (and makes reference to that effect). For example, last week Hallie told Anya "Something's coming. Something older than the old ones." and "It is a *bad* time to be a *good* guy".

The phrase "From beneath you, it devours" pops up everywhere... from the slain girl in Frankfurt, Germany to Buffy's nightmare (which could be one and the same ) to Spike's bizarre ranting.

Spike's hair is slicked back in this ep, and for the most part he seems normal. Things change tho... and by the end of the ep Buffy figures out that Spike has his soul back, and that he did that for her. You can see at least one tear on her face. (gulp!) Last scene shows Spike resting on/hugging a huge cross (bad idea for a vampire) with the smoke rising from him and not caring at all. He just wants to "rest". yipes!

just watched the first and second eps of buffy and wow, joss has got himself back on form!!!!
The image of Spike smouldering on the cross was incredible, i'm not a big fan of Spike but he was awsome in this ep.
My theory on the slain girls in both episodes is that they are slayers in waiting, the hooded men being acolites of the big evil abrewing. If they kill all the waiting slayers, then when they go after Buffy and kill her there will be no one strong enough to beat their evil, any new slayers called will be too young and untrained. this idea brings in Faith as she will be attacked while in prison, brake out and come to sunnydale to assist Buffy, But maybe the first evil will take on Faiths form and Buffy wont know which one to trust!!! oh i love how my brain works!!

Hmmm that's actually a *very* good theory..

there were also some great one liners and in jokes that are sooooo funny
Willow refers to Giles's treatment of her as "being all Dumbledorf!"
Buffy is showing Dawn how to defend herself from vampires, and she wonders how all vamps seem to have excellent kungfu skills!
there were plenty more but since its late my brain is now shutting down and i cant remember them!!!

Thank you Nemesis for posting your theory on the slayers in training. I wonder how the baddies *know* who will be the next slayer. *shrug*

When Willow told Giles he was "going all Dumbledore on her" , that was a reference to the character in the Harry Potter books & movie

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by Persephone
Thank you Nemesis for posting your theory on the slayers in training. I wonder how the baddies *know* who will be the next slayer. *shrug*

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Ah, have you read 'pretty maids all in a row' a story involving Spike killing 3 slayers in waiting as a present for Dru. He knew who they were so i guess so do these people

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by Persephone
When Willow told Giles he was "going all Dumbledore on her" , that was a reference to the character in the Harry Potter books & movie

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Yeah! i know the charater, just not the spelling!!! thanks!

(Edited by Stoo 12/10/2002 19:50)

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by nemesis
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Ah, have you read 'pretty maids all in a row' a story involving Spike killing 3 slayers in waiting as a present for Dru. He knew who they were so i guess so do these people

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nope haven't read the book. I'll look for it next time I'm in the bookstore.

Aaaaages since I've posted anything spoilagey, so a bit of an update for those who haven't seen the start of S7 and a few spoilers for the next couple of eps.

The Season so far -- Sunnydale highschool is rebuilt, Dawn's a student there, buffy's working there as a counsellor, spike lives in the school's basement. Spike's got a soul but is still chipped, and is ever so slightly delusional. Willow's over her magic addiction, and is more-or-less reset to a S5 power level and personality. Something *big* is happening, lots of demons are getting quite nervous, something may be killing off proto-slayers. Anya gets demoted to mortal, halfrek gets killed by D'Hoffryn to punish Anya for no longer wanting to be a demon.

Amber Benson may be back, though not as Tara. Faith is expected to return, as are the remaining two-thirds of the troika. Guest appearances of villains (inc Warren, the mayor and Glory) in ep 1 when a shapeshifty-hallucinationy-thing assumes their appearances.

7.6 -- Him -- all the girls fall for the school quarterback who got a magical seduction jacket. In attempts to win his affection buffy jumps him and tears off half her clothes, Anya robs a bank, Dawn tries to commit suicide and Willow attempts a little gender re-assignment. Spike and Xander save the day.

7.7 -- Conversations With Dead People -- people see dead people... possible appearances of Tara and Joyce. Jonathon and Andrew are back, one of them dies. The owls are not what they seem (no, hang on...)

7.8 -- Sleeper -- Spike's up to his old tricks, sucking bloods and siring vamps, but whether this is of his own volition or if he's controlled by the shapeshifter/first evil is unclear.

Around about ep 8/9/10 things start to get *serious*

(Edited by Callum 09/11/2002 19:07)

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by Callum
Amber Benson may be back, though not as Tara. Faith is expected to return, as are the remaining two-thirds of the troika. Guest appearances of villains (inc Warren, the mayor and Glory) in ep 1 when a shapeshifty-hallucinationy-thing assumes their appearances.

7.7 -- Conversations With Dead People -- people see dead people... possible appearances of Tara and Joyce. Jonathon and Andrew are back, one of them dies. The owls are not what they seem (no, hang on...)

7.8 -- Sleeper -- Spike's up to his old tricks, sucking bloods and siring vamps, but whether this is of his own volition or if he's controlled by the shapeshifter/first evil is unclear.

Around about ep 8/9/10 things start to get *serious*

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Just watched ep7, woah! This one's pretty serious! Joyce, Warren, Tara (speaking through Cassie, who is also dead (in ep4) ), plus some guy who sorts went to school with Buffy (tho she doesn't remember him) all come back to (I'm guessing) warn (and taunt!) the living.

Jonathon or Andrew: I was *really* hoping that of the two it would be Andrew killed off *sigh*. When I saw "Warren" guiding Andrew I knew Jonathon was history Gonna be interesting to see what that huge circley thing they uncovered in the school is tho. Looks like some sort of portal *shrug*.

Through Buffy's insistence, Spike moved in with Xander (into a closet LOL) in the last ep. Where exactly does Xander live anyway, he seems to have a different apartment every time they show the place. Two eps ago when Anya was singing her heart out, in a "different apartment", she opens the sliding doors and proceeds outside onto the deck. Xander has a deck now? Confused much? How is he paying for new apartment(s), and the classy car? okay rant over, moving right along...

Spike is back to his biting ways, and Buffy knows it. The Summers home is trashed. Giles where are you?! (I know I know he's back in next weeks ep and none too soon! ) This was a really good ep!

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by nemesis
just watched the first and second eps of buffy and wow, joss has got himself back on form!!!!

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I'm definitely enjoying this new season already - far better opening than season 6's first few eps that's for sure

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The image of Spike smouldering on the cross was incredible, i'm not a big fan of Spike but he was awsome in this ep.

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I'd got sick of Spike being over the top in the previous few seasons. I thought the whole soul thing was extreme, but it has been worked in so far very well. The madness thing is very quirky - and must be very similar to what Angel went through in the couple of hundred years leading up to meeting Whistler.

The blue jumper thing is too much though His "fancy dress costume" and the scene in the church was great. I did think Buffy would push him off the cross though ...

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My theory on the slain girls in both episodes is that they are slayers in waiting, the hooded men being acolites of the big evil abrewing. If they kill all the waiting slayers, then when they go after Buffy and kill her there will be no one strong enough to beat their evil, any new slayers called will be too young and untrained. this idea brings in Faith as she will be attacked while in prison, brake out and come to sunnydale to assist Buffy, But maybe the first evil will take on Faiths form and Buffy wont know which one to trust!!! oh i love how my brain works!!

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I love this theory, I actually wasn't analysing the opening episodes - more comparing it with the first ep of Alias with the running, music and the pink hair!

But for Buffy to have picked up on the girls death would indicate it relates to the slayers. But as you say, they would have to get to Faith to stop the line for sometime

But surely if the girls were slayers-in-waiting then as soon as one of them were killed another would replace in one long line

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by Pegasus
But surely if the girls were slayers-in-waiting then as soon as one of them were killed another would replace in one long line

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If slayers-in-waiting are chosen at birth (as it seems they are - Kendra was raised as a Slayer from a very young age), then there can only be so many of them who are old enough to do the job. Kill enough of them and you'd have to wait another 15 years or so for another one to grow up..