Well if you didnt know, Nemesis has bombed big time in the states, so there no way they will make another Next Gen film (even tho Patrick Stwerart had already said he wouldnt do any more).

Im sure they will get round to doing another film, but Im not sure which direction they would take it in. Whatever they do do, Im sure the wont be able to resist putting in one or two established characters to help 'sell it'.

A number of things i can imagine them doing include an 'accademy' film, tho not one focusing on the academy days of current characters, ie it should be set in 'TNG time'. I guess established characters could appear as lecturers etc. It would be hard to avoid the '90210 factor'

If they wanted to establish a new crew they could easily stick in a new captain, on a new ship, and use characters like Ezri Dax, The Doctor, Harry Kim etc though im not sure people would care enough to watch the film in large numbers.

I think that it will be an Enterprise film. I agree with Maff in that it's not ready yet, but I think that folks would take to seeing established characters on the big screen far better than they would to some newbies, some upstarts, who began their lives in the cinema instead of a couple of seasons on TV first.

Star Trek films have alway relied heavily upon established interactions between established characters, and I'm not sure changing this formula would be something that the studio bosses would be prepared to risk. The idea of the "smuggler" ship, kinda like Joss Whedon's Firefly which must surely have drawn it's inspiration from Han Solo's Millenium Falcon, is something that I'd like to see work, but I don't think it would. Firstly from the obvious parallel that ANY smuggler in space wants to be Han Solo and secondly it's so far removed from the basic idea of Star Trek that it probably couldn't carry the weight of the franchise's name

I think a "tie-in" film DS-9 and Voyager and the ships from ST-TNG, such as the Titan and so on would suffer immensely from having too many characters to focus upon, it was hard enough to get them all crammed into a film when we were just dealing with one series, let alone three. If the ammount of characters upon which focus is drawn is cut down, then the other well known characters simply gain cameo appearances, such as Janeway's in Nemesis. Which then becomes almost a self-parody

So I say give it to Enterprise, even though I'd love to get a look at the Titan

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by Wobag
It would be hard to avoid the '90210 factor'

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If it has Shannen doherty in it, then i'm quite happy .

I like the idea about having a TNG/DS9/Voyager film, although I can see the problems highlighted by Monster are a rather big sticking point. Maybe only having DS9 and Voyager would work better?

Voyager was a closed series in that it started at the begining and finished at the end.(ie them getting home) and as Admiral Janeway had a cameo in Nemesis I don;t think Voyager will go anywhere.

DS9 kind of fizzled out at the end and character left. O'brian,Worf,Sisko, Jadzir Dax. The new Dax wasn;t there long enough to establish the part as her own.

TNG has now probably run it's course.

Enterprise this is where the next film will come from but only after the series has ended and then next one started.

I've thought about this a bit recently.
I think the best move would be to
a) Bury Berman and Braga in a very deep hole, in the antarctic, and back fill it with hard, heavy, sharp, pointy things that hurt to claw at. They're too big for their own boots yet somehow far lacking when it comes to Rodenberry's shoes.

b) Bring back Nick Meyer and Jeri Taylor and maybe Michael Piller.



Then either do two interlocking but independent movies, at the same time. Each with half the Next Gen crew, each featuring members of the DS9 and Voyager crews.
Suggested subjects - rounding up the Dominion war, was never really satisfied with the end of DS9, could feature Tom Riker - Fixing up B4, it was a really bad idea but we might as well do something with him, could find out what the hell happened to the homing beakon from those parasites in Conspiracy in season 1 on TNG.

Or
I was watching Generations the other week and it never fails to occur to me that the sequence with the Enterprise B is by far the best part of that film. I think it's open to exploration, the updated Excelsior class ship still looks cool.
Takei could finally get some more screen time in the captain's chair, we could see the fall out from Kirk's dissapearence and they could include a little more about Rachel Garrett as a youngster. The B and C are parts of Enterprise history that've been sadly overlooked. I bet Alan Ruck'd be up for it

Basically agree with Vinnie. Voyager is limited by its story line. You either do a film episode based on part of their journey home, or you really can't use them at all, except as twee cameo parts in someone else's story.

I'm actually quite a big fan of DS9, but as much as I loved it, I can't see how they could build a film out of it. The war with the Dominion was the only aspect which was epic enough to transfer to film, but the story was fully covered in the TV series.

Not sure I like the idea of films independent of the series, it would require a lot of character establishment that is usually taken care of in the TV shows, leaving little time for plot. After all, a huge part of the attraction of Star Trek is the characters. Possibly a series of films following Titan, or even Riker as captain of a new Enterprise, but that's all I could see working.

However, considering the (lack of) success with Nemesis, and to a lesser extent with DS9 and Voyager, it looks like there won't be another Star Trek film for a while. If it is successful enough, maybe an Enterprise film around the five year mark of the series, but I doubt there'll be anything else before then.

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by Jayjay
Not sure I like the idea of films independent of the series, it would require a lot of character establishment that is usually taken care of in the TV shows, leaving little time for plot. After all, a huge part of the attraction of Star Trek is the characters. Possibly a series of films following Titan, or even Riker as captain of a new Enterprise, but that's all I could see working.

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Well, all original films require character development, i don't see why if they got a decent writer a good set of characters couldn't do well in a film independant of the TV series.

The TV series have given a wealth of characters to draw from, but the old ones are getting stale now and the newer ones won't work in a film and the series is starting to work in reverse for the franchise, blocking it's potential rather than creating it.

The Trek-verse lends itself to creating situations and characters that could make very good films, so i think that's what they should do, instead of making feature length tv episodes.

I'd be more than happy to see the 'Trek' movie franchise quietly retired from active service.

Of 10 (11?) movies made, only a handful have been any good.

Science fiction tends to split quite neatly between those stories interested in exploring specific ideas dramatically (Blade Runner, The Matrix, Gattaca) and stories where the 'sci-fi' element is just so much 'magic' by a different name providing a backdrop for (hopefully) interesting characters to have adventures (Star Wars, Aliens).

Star Trek has no ideas to explore and the years of television episodes have covered any and all character issues comprehensively.

Thank you but I'd far rather see something original.

Well I havent been in a Trek discussion for a while but my views are:

TNG - To quote the Cat - As dead as T Bone Flares with pocket in the knees! Simple as, with Patrick Stewart out of it I cant see the Enterprise making anything more than a Cameo in the franchise now.

DS9 - Personally I found this to be the better of the series - at least as of Season 5 anyway.
Again I cant see it as a film, due to the storyline at the end of 'All Good Things' - I would LOVE to see it in a film, and even more so to have it as a film in its own right, I would LOVE to see DS9 get the Film Cash that boosted the image of TNG, I mean come ON - the Borg in STFC looked MUCH more convincing!
The limiting factor with that though is the Jam'Hadar syndrome - they are gone - thus no story line!

Voyager - As people have said - closed.
With Endgame it was all over. Any more work with Voyager will cause annoying inconsistancies from all the damn time traveling episodes they churned out when they ran out of ideas!

As for enterprise - due to other people in the house, and TV clashing I didnt get to see a lot of it.
I cant see a good film comming from it though.
It's too steeped in History for my tastes.
AFAIC I want to see the SS Deaduls (eveyone consult your ST Encylopedias!) seeing as accoriding to the book that was the like on of the first ships!

But I think a pre TNG film is out of the question for at LEAST 10 more years!
The ST New Frontier idea was good (the books), and I think coupling that with the Babylon 5 new series methodolgy, having a film as the lead in to the new series would go down a storm - at least I'd like it!

So lets think enemies.
Borg? Not again - no way.
Voyager put paid to that (which is a pity as I love the Borg Eps and Films!).
Klingons? Too much like Kirks lot - plus with the Alliance it wouldnt work.
Romulans? The high senate was slaughtered by Remons in ST:N
So what are we left with:
The one race we dont see enough of:
THE BREEN!
Why not? I think the Breen would go down well.
They are STEEPed in ST history - going as ar back as TNG series 1 I think!
Other than that you'r left with Andorians (now in the UFP), Talosians again (no reason why not - would be interesting!), MORE time travel (no ta!), or a new species!
Personally I would go with the new species and the film leading into a new series - rather than becoming a cash cow to flog a dead horse!

A couple of possiblities from DS9 would be

'Through the looking glass' a film based on the alternative DS9
or
One following the Marqui (sp?)

What about the possible plot then, any ideas?

At the end of DS9 they did imply that Sisco would be coming back from the celestial temple, and they were setting up something about the brrenn (who we must see more of) so maybe's they were planning ahead. On a side note, does anyoner have any idea what the next T.V series will be?

Nah I dont they have ever planned ahead, and Im sure they have implied in interview that of all the captains they wouldnt want back, its Sisko.

Fact is Enterprise is a hairs breadth away from getting cancelled, and while i think theres a resonable chance it will limp along to 6 or 7 seasons (not without some sackings i anticipate), im fairly sure there wont be a next series for quite some time.

I think after this finishes I can imagine someone like Scifi channel with their big budget miniseries like Dune doing something Trekky. Perhaps an Academy miniseries.

Thats the one thats always been touted both for series and movies, the problem being for a regular series, 1) how do you have real danger and drama week on week in an environment thats designed to be safe school type place, and 2) Wont it be all young characters?

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by Wobag
Nah I dont they have ever planned ahead

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Eh, Rodenberry plans still aren't finished, on the subject of the Acadamy G.R planned that as a full sized series, based around "Red Star" a squad being trained up in the more complicated of starfleets ships: Battleships, sorts out the danger, and the Akira, Excelsior and Soveriegns are BShips so plenty of oppurtunity for scincy eps, also I wouldn't mind sewing more of the promethues (Target? Romulans!).

Hmmmm... I'm a geek

Has anyone considered this:

TNG has run its course. Everyone knows that. Everyone also knows that not since TNG has there been a solid successful Star Trek show. DS9 was cool, but had limited potential. So did Voyager, and it was less cool. TNG was the only show with broad reaching "exploration" asperations, which is what Star Trek was based on: "Where no man has gone before". They lost that, and if they don't want the franchise to die then they have to get it back. How do they do that? They tried with Enterprise, but it isn't working. They need a carryover, a likeable character that draws in the old trekkie enthusiasts. They thought the name Enterprise would do that, but it didn't. They need a character to gel the show around. And this is where Nemesis comes in.
Has anyone considered that this movie, which is all but admittedly the last TNG film, is intended to serve as a setup for a new, yet familiar, series, one that can revive the early TNG show enthusiasm and appeal?
Hense, I give you Star Trek: Titan, starring Captain Riker, Troi, and a new crew on a ship that finally goes back to the central Star Trek theme, space exploration.
That should be Burman's focus, and if he doesn't realize it then he is an idiot. The franchise is floundering, and only going back to its roots can save it.
If this wasn't the intention of Nemesis, then it had better be made so, and quick.
Trekkies don't care about Enterprise. Its the past, history. They don't even really care about the Kirk era. Its cool to do crossover episodes, and look back at it, but it isn't a solid basis for a show. Trekkies want to see what happens next.
So either lets launch Titan as the next 24th century exploration show, and get back to what works, or just screw it, and skip to the 25th century. Thats what they did when the original died, and it worked.
Maybe we need a fresh start in the next century, open up a whole new world of possibilities, and generate some enthusiasm and excitement. Who knows, 100 years later maybe we will be allied with the Romulans, and back at war with the Klingons.

That is what Trek is all about, possibilities.

Engage.