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Keenangel

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Jan 23 2003

Angel Season Four Premiere: Deep Down

Okay, for me, six months of waiting is finally over... Angel is back!!

And i thought it was a damned good episode.. the hallucinations, Connor's duplicity, Fred and Gunn parenting skills... Wes and Lilah and Justine. Oh, and the disposal of Linwood, Lilah is in charge!.

And it's Wesley who saved Angel, though he said he didn't care... and i had to laugh at when Justine was about to brain him with a tool, he threatened to take away her bucket. I thought he was just awesome this whole episode, so dark and cold. Almost Angel like i suppose

And keeping Justine chained up in the closet in a cage was just too good for her.

And the change in Fred. Wow!, so much better, she's actually got more of a spine.. and the way she was sweet to Connor, bringing him something to eat, being all sweet and maternal and then zapping him like that.. yikes!!!

And Angel's speech at the end.. "I love you Connor, now get out of my house".. wow..

Plus, i laughed out loud at Cordelia being "bored" as a Higher Being.. typical Cordelia remark or what?

I'll probably post more once i've had a chance to process my thoughts and watch the ep again..

(Edited by Keenangel 23/01/2003 22:11)

(Edited by Keenangel 23/01/2003 22:12)

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Sunnydale_girl History repeats itself. It has to, nobody listens.

I'm a happy person!

I liked this. A lot. And following what I thought was a spine-tingling Buffy ep, my Thursday evenings are now complete!

Posted: 22:36 Jan 23 2003

Alf For every complex problem there is a solution that is simple, neat... and wrong!

I enjoyed this ep also. Just as Keenangel says!

Wesley must be the most interesting and awesome character at the moment (Buffy eps included). Brilliantly portrayed by Mr. Denisof.

One picky point (as usual!) - Stick insect Amy who probably weighs 2 stone wet through, get a tazer blast in the neck. After a quick rest she's as right as rain!

Posted: 23:45 Jan 23 2003

Samphirette To you I guess I'm just a clown who picks you up each time you're down

It was a very packed in episode, everything seemed to move from one section of the storyline extremely smoothly.

I was very impressed with the way Fred had suddenly gone (well not so suddenly given the 3month "break"

from being all shy and coy to blossoming. It was quite a change. Her nice as pie act with Connor and then electrifying him was really out of character but good to see. I suppose she has every right to be angry after being nice to Connor over the months then finding out he's to blame for most things.

It hadn't dawned on me that Angel wouldn't be as mental as I thought stuck at the bottom of an ocean living thought after thought. Having spent a few hundred years in a hell dimension previously I would imagine this was a picnic for him. (nice to see contiunity riding through the shows)

His talk to Connor "Daddy hasn't finished yet" was excellent

Gotta admit, Wesley really is a dark horse though - kinda makes you wonder what he's going to do next and whether he'll ever be accepted back in after sleeping with Lilah.

Posted: 01:04 Jan 24 2003

FiveByFive I was being like, sarcastic, or whatever

Wow at Wesley! I was shocked when he opened his closet and Justine was chained up in there!

And Wow at Lilah! Way to take over a department! Actually talking to the senior partners.

These two are obviously going to be huge players this season (at least I hope so). Wes seems to have the upper hand at the moment but they seem very evenly matched.

I thought the episode itself was good, I liked that of the two people who new where Angel was, one was busy doing everything he could to stop him being found, and the other was being tortured (?) for the info ('though how did Wes know that she knew?).

And I did laugh at Fred trying to use words like 'Bro' and 'Dog', the look on Gunn's face when she came out with 'Word' was priceless.

Seems strange that Cordy would be sat around bored when Skip had insisted that there was work to be done and she had to leave straight away.

Oh, and can someone please remind me when they used that all sitting round the dinner table scene before. I can't remember for the life of me...

Posted: 11:03 Jan 24 2003

ROMBA

Thought this was good.
I was surprised that Wesley had been keeping Justine captive like that.
Good to see Lilah in charge at W&H.
Liked the scene with Cordelia at the end.

Posted: 12:32 Jan 24 2003

Keenangel *Fourteen phonecalls a night??!!*

by FiveByFive

Oh, and can someone please remind me when they used that all sitting round the dinner table scene before. I can't remember for the life of me...

Angel goes to dinner with a family he tries to help in the season one episode "I've Got You Under My Skin" and there's the episode when Angel takes the team out to dinner to celebrate Cordelia's success at gaining a part in an advert, aka Bikini Cordy.. i think it was the season two episode "Belonging" though i'm ashamed to admit, i can't be exactly sure...

(Edited by Keenangel 24/01/2003 16:11)

Posted: 16:05 Jan 24 2003

Whistler "I wonder wonder why the wonder falls. I wonder why the wonder falls on me. I wonder wonder why the wonder falls, with everything I touch and hear and see."

Unless, of course, he's referring to the scene from the S5 Buffy ep, 'The Body' where all the Scoobies are sat round a table at Christmas in a flashback moment.

(Edited by Whistler 24/01/2003 16:33)

Posted: 16:32 Jan 24 2003

Acker No power in the 'verse can stop me.

I really liked this episode too. I really hate Connor though, I was as mad at him as Fred was. They did take him in, and all the time he had betrayed them

and the way he killed Maurissa and was just so deceitful about everything. Good on Fred for doing that electric thing on him!
It was good when Wesley got Angel out, and it was also cool to see Lilah just decapitate him, it was actually quite a shock, 'cause she looked so nervous before the meeting.
I wanna see more of Justine.
I thought the bit at the end with Cordy was kinda out of place, because she had not been in the episode all along and then 'I'm so bored' just came out of nowhere. Ah well.
All in all, a great season opener!

Posted: 21:45 Jan 24 2003

Keenangel *Fourteen phonecalls a night??!!*

I think Connor has the potential to become quite interesting. He's been brainwashed, misinformed and lied to his whole life, and on top of that, lived in a hell dimension with a man who swore only vengeance on Angel/us. Wouldn't you be just a tiny little bit angry at that?. And anger like that takes a long time, if ever, to get over or come to terms with.

Justine, i'd be happy never to see her again. I didn't like her character at all, and i especially didn't like her participation in disposing of Angel at the end of Season 3, after all, it was Angel who saved her butt in "Benediction" after all and that was the thanks that he got.. Thinking about it a little now, i think she had a touch of Kate about her.

Posted: 22:15 Jan 24 2003

Whistler "I wonder wonder why the wonder falls. I wonder why the wonder falls on me. I wonder wonder why the wonder falls, with everything I touch and hear and see."

by Keenangel
Thinking about it a little now, i think she had a touch of Kate about her.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Kate. I miss her!

Posted: 23:18 Jan 24 2003

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