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Keenangel
Wow, i honestly thought someone would've posted about last night's episode before now!..
Darla is pregnant with Angel's child.. I'm hoping this is the beginning of a story arc.. we need one!

But i need to get something off my chest first and foremost...

I'm starting to get a little irritated by dorky-Angel... at first it was sweet and perhaps funny, but now?.. in my humble opinion, it's starting to get a little.... old.. don't get me wrong, David plays the comedic angle really well, but weeks of the exaggerated face pulling isn't funny anymore... i want the return of broody-boy!!! and judging by last night's episode, he may be returning sooner than we thought.

It was a pretty decent episode on the whole.. the way Cordelia told Angel that she loved him (his look of utter...shock).. and the rest of the gang's chorus of "we love you Angel" was funny. Returning to Caritas while the Furies were in attendance, and being embarrassed by their "MMmmmmmAngel" (i want to know that story! ).. the flashback episode... and Darla and Angel's fight at the arcade (which was breath taking)...not forgetting the prophecy..

I enjoyed the episode a lot, just not dorky-Angel...

[ 01 March 2002: Message edited by: Keenangel ]

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White Hart
Definitely looking like the start of an arc - anyone else have a wee suspicion that Holz (is that the right name?) is going to be this season's Big Bad? Then again, I initially thought Billy might be, but this episode had 'arc' written all over it.
I'm still not sure about the whole Darla having Angel's child thing, but I suppose it'll have an explanation sometime

I don't mind 'dorky Angel', and I think it's kind of sweet the way he's starting to feel the depth of his feelings for Cordy. I'd say, well, the guy deserves some happiness, but that's the one thing he can't have, of course...

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ROMBA
This was a good episode
Darla eating for two is scary :eek:
Cordy is getting pretty tough,all that training with Angel.

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Miss Edith
I'm getting well confused. I've seen this ep a couple of times already at Nos and that, but I thought it was like ep 3 or something. Are Sky getting the order wrong or am I just way ahead of myself here??

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Keenangel

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Originally posted by Miss Edith:
[qb]I'm getting well confused. I've seen this ep a couple of times already at Nos and that, but I thought it was like ep 3 or something. Are Sky getting the order wrong or am I just way ahead of myself here?? [/qb]

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Season Three Angel Episodes Aired To Date on Sky:

1. Heartthrob

2. That Vision Thing

3. That Old Gang of Mine

4. Carpe Noctem

5. Fredless

6. Billy

7. Offspring

All been shown in the above order as aired in the US

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Sunnydale girl
I've gotta agree with Keeny, 'dorky' Angel is somewhat irritating. I much prefer him mysterious and brooding - I don't even really like it when he smiles! And Angel and Cordy??? No!!

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FiveByFive
I was quite surprised at how Cordy was allowed by Angel and the rest to behave with Darla. I was sat at home going "Excuse me, er.. Darla! Evil vampire alert!" But as usual, no-one on the telly can hear you...
And Holtz being the big bad? Isn't he one of the good guys?

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In a State of Dan

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Originally posted by FiveByFive:
[qb]And Holtz being the big bad? Isn't he one of the good guys?[/qb]

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You might think, except.. Holtz is bent on revenge. He doesn't care about anything except finding and killing Angelus and Darla, and that kind of obsession doesn't usually lead to goodness...

/me faints at Keenangel criticising Angel. You're right, though. His character has been somewhat lighter ever since 'Epiphany' but sometimes they take it too far. I found the Cordy 'I love you' scene particularly cringesome.

In general, I quite enjoyed the episode, but it's clearly set-up for stuff later on, and as such it doesn't really stand on its own. Some of the writing, particularly Cordelias behaviour towards Darla, was way off the mark. It's understandable to the extent that she was extremely upset with Angel for lying to her and sleeping with Darla, and was trying to get back at him, but the scene in Caritas, very careless behaviour.

Still, it feels like the season's really kicking off now, and that's good.

Oh, and mmmm Fred - quote of the week "Nothing's inevitable as long as you stand up, look it in the eye, and say 'You're evitable!'"

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Astronut

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Originally posted by FiveByFive:
[qb]I was quite surprised at how Cordy was allowed by Angel and the rest to behave with Darla. I was sat at home going "Excuse me, er.. Darla! Evil vampire alert!" But as usual, no-one on the telly can hear you...[/qb]

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I think it's the same problem the Scooby Gang are having with Spike. When a "good" vampire becomes a friend, you start thinking of them as human beings with pointy teeth, and attribute them with human motivations. Angel is the exception, not the rule.

Darla (and Spike) have just proved that...

I liked this episode, lots of nice little set-pieces and some good humour. It is definitely a set-up episode, and I think Holtz is a nice change for a recurring character - good concept, different motivation from usual. I don't think he's the season arch-villain - Angel doesn't actually seem to have followed this ploy so far, being more interested in character arcs than plot arcs - instead, he'll be a recurring not-quite-bad-guy. Kind of the random factor that screws everything up for everyone else (good and bad combined).

Jon

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