Tangent 21 - Angel Season Four: Episode 18: Shiny Happy People.

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Keenangel

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May 22 2003

Angel Season Four: Episode 18: Shiny Happy People.

Was it just me or was this a strange episode of Angel?. Probably me. It was entertaining and Amy Acker was great all the way through but it felt like a slight let down for me. Maybe the episode just set the scene for the final four episodes, i don't know, but this episode couldn't hold my attention and i even got a little bored.

Lost count how many times Cordelia's eyes twitched

Hated Angel's shirt.. nice it was a light coloured shirt, but it was just a horrible pattern.

I think the episode truly got interesting once Fred saw Jasmine's "true" face. And now she's all alone.

And Gina Torres is one beautiful woman and i didn't realise that she is married to Laurence Fishburne (Morpheus in The Matrix for the few that don't know who he is).

Not an all out interesting episode for me. I'm just hoping that season four doesn't finish as "oddly" as Season Two and the Pylea Arc did.

Oh and a slight aside.. did anyone else recognise one of the cops sent after Faith in tonight's "Buffy" as being Season Three menace Billy? (the one Skip guarded in that fiery cell that Angel had to rescue to save Cordelia)

(Edited by Keenangel 22/05/2003 22:26)

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Alf For every complex problem there is a solution that is simple, neat... and wrong!

This ep was a bit "slow" in spite of all the action. The word "serenity" comes to mind - probably highlighting Jasmine's effect on everyone. Hopefully a calm before the storm type thing.

How come the guy in the hospital was alive after being pummelled 4 or 5 times by a vamped up Angel? Surely one blow would have nearly taken his head off!!!

Didn't recognise the "Billy" guy but agree about Amy.

Posted: 23:14 May 22 2003

Milky "Busted - Now that you're gone, I'm sleeping with the light on..." Pof, 2005

By the first break I was almost falling under Jasmine's spell...I was wondering whether she really was going to be a goodie and there to help Angel and Co..it wasn't till Fred saw her true face that I realised she wasn't....been trying to figure out what it is that changed Fred and allowed her to 'see' Jasmine..Club Soda maybe?

Posted: 23:40 May 22 2003

JtB If someone gives you freedom it is not freedom, freedom is something you take for yourself.

Wasnt overly impressed with this episode to be honest, it had some good moments and nice to see Fred get a promiment role.

Intresting that shes getting Angel and Co to wipe ot all the demons is that so there is no-one left to challenge her?

Even though I wasnt impressed I am still looking forward to next weeks.

Posted: 08:49 May 23 2003

ROMBA

Thought this was a good ep.
Interesting that Fred was the one to see Jasmine's true face.

Posted: 08:51 May 23 2003

Acker No power in the 'verse can stop me.

I thought Amy Acker was great, and the scene at the end with poor Fred all alone going down that street was sad

It was also sad when she put so much faith in Wes, and he let her down, but could kinda see that coming. She was quick thinking though, grabbing a weapon.
One bit that didn't make sense to me was Jasmine telling Angel and Connor to let her go. Why would she do that, when they could just grab her in a few seconds?
I agree that the ep only got good when Fred saw her true face, the rest was a little cheesy.
And thanks for the fact Keenangel, I actually never knew that, but they seem like a cute couple!

Posted: 20:28 May 23 2003

Ferretgirl Make something idiot-proof and they will make a better idiot

Like most it seemed, i was too impressed with this episode. I found myself really quite bored for the first 30mins. I understand that the writers had to do it that way to show what an impact she had but for me it just wasn't interesting tv. It got a lot better when Fred woke from the spell and picked itself up.

It was cool to have a Fred centred ep kinda because there hasn't been one for a bit (or if there has i can't think of it at the mo) and she played it really well.

Hmmm, it's gonna be interesting (hopefully) the next few episodes

Posted: 20:34 May 23 2003

The_Host The concept of 'All-You-Can-Eat' buffets has always appealed to me.

by KeenangelAnd Gina Torres is one beautiful woman and i didn't realise that she is married to Laurence Fishburne (Morpheus in The Matrix for the few that don't know who he is).

And I didn't realise that the guy who plays her captain (formerly 'Private Ryan' - did Joss write for that film?) in 'Firefly' is currently causing chaos as Caleb in 'Buffy'. Whedon World is a small place...

Posted: 10:47 May 24 2003

Sydney You can lead the whore to culture but you can't make her think!

I HATED this episode. I thought it was awful and boring. There was something about it that didn't ring true - i can't put my finger on what it was - and that ruined it for me. Here's hoping next weeks will be better

Posted: 20:53 May 26 2003

Desire Girls don't like boys, girls like cars and money.

by Milky
....been trying to figure out what it is that changed Fred and allowed her to 'see' Jasmine..Club Soda maybe?

I was thinking that. After a re-watch I thought it could be that Fred touched her blood in the scrubbing out session... but that wouldn't account for why bloke in the hospital didn't fall under her spell either? Very strange. Anyone got any thoughts about that? Why is it only Fred that can see Jasmine for her 'true self'?

I thought the last scene with Fred in the diner and walking down the street was a nice touch. I'm not convinced where this is going though. I suppose Jasmine is going to be the big bad and eventually everyone would wake up and then kill her? I hope its not. I very rarely am clever enough to guess the way things turn out and if I did then its already spoiled for me

Best line of the ep?
"I can't believe Fred's evil"

that really made me smile. If its not Angel, Wes or Cordy its Fred

Posted: 22:12 May 26 2003

Keenangel *Fourteen phonecalls a night??!!*

by Desire
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I was thinking that. After a re-watch I thought it could be that Fred touched her blood in the scrubbing out session... but that wouldn't account for why bloke in the hospital didn't fall under her spell either? Very strange. Anyone got any thoughts about that? Why is it only Fred that can see Jasmine for her 'true self'?

I think you pretty much nailed it on the head there. I think the only way Fred could see Jasmine's true face was to come into contact with her blood. And she did in washing out the blood on her blouse. I think the guy in the hospital may have been affected by some kind of transferrence, maybe via Angel when he was pummelling the guy, but i've yet to see how it was done. That's the only way i can think of him being affected. But saying that, didn't he see her true face before Angel began kicking his butt?, so i'm as puzzled as you guys.

Posted: 22:18 May 26 2003

Sydney You can lead the whore to culture but you can't make her think!

I think Fred may have touched on it with the history of mental illness thing she asked in the hospital... Fred was a little crazy when she was in Pylea so maybe that is linked to it?

Posted: 11:42 May 27 2003

nemesis "man im sooo good..and theyre so dumb!"

ah watch carefully. the vampire that attacks Jasmin scratches her and get her blood into him. he then sees her as she is and flees. he runs into the guy and the blood must transfer to him he then sees jasmin for her true self. Fred then gets jasmins blood into her cos she scrubs the shirt till her fingers bleed.

Posted: 02:14 May 29 2003

Whistler "I wonder wonder why the wonder falls. I wonder why the wonder falls on me. I wonder wonder why the wonder falls, with everything I touch and hear and see."

Well, like other people have said, not the greatest of eps. But, I will say, other than an evil influence affecting them, I don't see the 'beauty' in Jasmine everyone else does. She really doesn't do anything for me Really not my type. Heck, AI have two women much more attractive working for them for God's sake!!

On another note, I liked the Pylea ending of S2. It was needed after such a dark season. I still don't get why people don't like it. After all, we wouldn't have had the Dance Of Joy without it

Posted: 21:48 May 31 2003

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