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*Major spoiler ahead*
It was crap.
It was crap.
Posted: 02:21 May 21 2004
Angel 5.22
My usual "justification" (excuse) for reading spoilers is how difficult it is to go unspoiled -- Sky adverts, friends, Sky adverts, discussion boards, Sky adverts, -- particularly for *MAJOR* things; the bigger the bang, the further away you're gonna hear it from.
Spoilers for Angel 5.22 are now doing the rounds, possibley comprising the entire plot summary; Sky has 5.15 this week, so 5.22 should be early June; 7, maybe 8 weeks; last chance to go unspoiled; gah! Should I just speculate on what it might contain -- perhaps buffy x-overs? Willow/Cordie shower scene? Riley/Groo death match? -- shocking revelations? Harmony is one of the Senior Partners? -- loose ends wrapped up? What was that wolf/ram/hart thing with the books in Lorne's world? Was Season 4 actually that bad? Gah again!
Spoilers for Angel 5.22 are now doing the rounds, possibley comprising the entire plot summary; Sky has 5.15 this week, so 5.22 should be early June; 7, maybe 8 weeks; last chance to go unspoiled; gah! Should I just speculate on what it might contain -- perhaps buffy x-overs? Willow/Cordie shower scene? Riley/Groo death match? -- shocking revelations? Harmony is one of the Senior Partners? -- loose ends wrapped up? What was that wolf/ram/hart thing with the books in Lorne's world? Was Season 4 actually that bad? Gah again!
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Indeed it was. A complete dissapointment. It wouldn't even have been particularly good as a normal season finale, but as the show finale it was...
...a bit pathetic really.
I'm glad it got cancelled now.
...a bit pathetic really.
I'm glad it got cancelled now.
Posted: 19:35 May 21 2004
yeah I liked it as a normal finale, but as the last one ever it was a bit poo. Hopefully they'll do a TV movie at some point which will hopefully be a better way to finish Angel
Posted: 19:40 May 22 2004 Apparantly David Borenaz (sp) doent want to do any but the rest of the cast do. But he might comeback when his wallet starts hurting, the majority of the buffy cast havent done much since the show ended.
by SPIKE
yeah I liked it as a normal finale, but as the last one ever it was a bit poo. Hopefully they'll do a TV movie at some point which will hopefully be a better way to finish Angel
The final was just ok but could have been alot better and why kill off the best character on the show.
Posted: 21:02 May 22 2004
OK, so I'm going to go against the grain here and say that it was bloody amazing, and you can all disagree with me all you like 
. I didn't really know what I was expecting, but I really think that they did a good job with it, certainly in terms of what I was wanting from it anyway.
In the time that they had after the show was cancelled, there were always going to be problems iwth the finale. I thought that the way they split the ep into the seperate plotlines of the various 'perfect' days was particularly effective, and allowed the episode to become truly an ensemble - which is something that we have not seen in the show in a while.
As much as I was torn apart about the death of Wesley, I thought, just as with the death on Anya is 'Chosen' that it was appropriate. Wesley had been saying to Illyria how he had no perfect day and had nothing to live for, and so it seemed logical to me that he should be the character to die - after all, he was scheduled to die in the middle of season 3 of Buffy!
There have been suggestions that the finale was rushed - it all ended too quickly for the fans...I would agree with this to a certain extent, although its not altogether suprising when you consider the rushed way that the show was cancelled.
I'm curious to know what it was the people hated so much about the finale? I will admit that I was a bit disappointed with the fact that Angel so willingly signed away his chance of becoming human; however, on reflection I felt that it was an indication to audience of how muvh he truly deserved it.
Opinions welcome...feel free to shoot me down! 
. I didn't really know what I was expecting, but I really think that they did a good job with it, certainly in terms of what I was wanting from it anyway.In the time that they had after the show was cancelled, there were always going to be problems iwth the finale. I thought that the way they split the ep into the seperate plotlines of the various 'perfect' days was particularly effective, and allowed the episode to become truly an ensemble - which is something that we have not seen in the show in a while.
As much as I was torn apart about the death of Wesley, I thought, just as with the death on Anya is 'Chosen' that it was appropriate. Wesley had been saying to Illyria how he had no perfect day and had nothing to live for, and so it seemed logical to me that he should be the character to die - after all, he was scheduled to die in the middle of season 3 of Buffy!
There have been suggestions that the finale was rushed - it all ended too quickly for the fans...I would agree with this to a certain extent, although its not altogether suprising when you consider the rushed way that the show was cancelled.
I'm curious to know what it was the people hated so much about the finale? I will admit that I was a bit disappointed with the fact that Angel so willingly signed away his chance of becoming human; however, on reflection I felt that it was an indication to audience of how muvh he truly deserved it.
Opinions welcome...feel free to shoot me down!
Posted: 21:46 May 22 2004 Surely thats the reason he shouldnt die, the best characters are always the ones with tortured lifes.
by head2head
Wesley had been saying to Illyria how he had no perfect day and had nothing to live for, and so it seemed logical to me that he should be the character to die - after all, he was scheduled to die in the middle of season 3 of Buffy!
(Edited by JtB 22/05/2004 23:36)
Posted: 23:36 May 22 2004 I have to say I agreee with head2head here. The actual finale episode itself turned out to be pretty damn good. It ws just the last minute of it that made be go WHAT!?!?!?
But after reading a few other people's thoughts on it I understand why Joss finished the season that way. Angel has always been about fighting the fight no matter what happens. You just have to keep on fighting.
Posted: 14:36 May 23 2004 I suppose so...don't get me wrong I was truly GUTTED that they killed Wesley off...he was my fave character on the show! However, the way that the character was going, I could see that killing him off was a sure fire way of 'sharing the pain' that Joss made a point of saying he was going to do. If he was going to make people hurt over the ending of the show, killing off Wesley was certainly the way to do it (for me anywaY
by JtB
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Surely thats the reason he shouldnt die, the best characters are always the ones with tortured lifes.
)For once I have an opinion on something...Yay me
Posted: 15:34 May 23 2004
I think the reason i was dissapointed was because it wasn't exactly a nice happy ending. To be honest I thought it was a very good episode, but knowing there is no more after that I just felt a bit gutted, I want more! I really want to know what would happen next!
Posted: 23:40 May 23 2004 The execution was appaling. The underlying idea -- that Angel's Charlies fight the good fight for its own sake even though they're doomed to failure -- could definitely have worked. But the idea was a 11th hour addition to a lackluster season, and poorly implemented. The Black Circle (or whatever the heck it was called) had no resonance with the audience. They were a bunch of comedy villains that Angel decides, out the blue, to sacrifice his team to destroy. I had zero investment in any of it, it felt sudden and pointless. And that goes for just about everything, from Lorn turning into Leon to the rediculous Lord Of The Rings ending. I kept waiting for Spike to say, "There be orks, 'undreds of the buggers!"
by head2head
I'm curious to know what it was the people hated so much about the finale?
It could be argued this mess is because of the sudden cancellation, but I think it's fairly clear Joss has been building upto this all (mediocre) season. It's been a ragged year kept afloat with witty dialogue and some classy stand-alone episodes (just as the finale was kept afloat by occasional flashes of brilliance like Spike's effulgent farewell), but now it's time for it to sink without a trace.
Posted: 17:20 May 25 2004 
same here i loved the final ever ep. it was a good way to end it, open, do they survive dont they!? what becomes or lorn?! great stuff. i hate when final eps tie up everything (much like i thought buffy's did)
by head2head
OK, so I'm going to go against the grain here and say that it was bloody amazing, and you can all disagree with me all you like
its a shame to see the show go, but at least it went down fighting
Posted: 11:37 Jun 10 2004