Hmm tricky, I think 6 movies is a terribly big commitment for a channelthats just cancelled the show, but I was rather expecting one or two.

IF they did 6, what I would like to see is one that ties up the cliffhanger from s5, one historical one that concentrates on Angel, Spike, Darla and all, a stand alone one that reunites Buffy with Angel, and then a loose trilogy in the regular Angel setting that deals with the whole Shanshu issue once and for all.

---

If the WB actually pulled a stunt like that there would be out-cry from a large section of... the loopy, addicted 'oh my god, no more angel' fans, which, let's face it, isn't that many. Normal people tend not to be too fussed when shows end, especially not Angel.

---

Wo's comment makes sense and if they do do the mini movies (Which i personally took as a sweetner to lessen the blow of the WB insane decision to cancel Angel, by the way...didn't work)...i hope they do it like that

And Maff, for the record... i'm addicted to the show, as has been well documented here and at the old site and i'm certainly not "loopy", I actually find that a sweeping insulting statement to people like myself who adore the show and have followed it from day one. We were upset at the WB's decision to cancel this show (and for some reason, renew Charmed? ) and we were entitled to view our feelings. It may have been "loopy" to you, but because we didn't agree with the decision (and a lot of the Cult Sci-Fi media have questioned this decision also), we are entitled to our feelings and opinions

---

by Keenangel
And Maff, for the record... i'm addicted to the show, as has been well documented here and at the old site and i'm certainly not "loopy", I actually find that a sweeping insulting statement to people like myself who adore the show and have followed it from day one. We were upset at the WB's decision to cancel this show (and for some reason, renew Charmed? ) and we were entitled to view our feelings. It may have been "loopy" to you, but because we didn't agree with the decision (and a lot of the Cult Sci-Fi media have questioned this decision also), we are entitled to our feelings and opinions

---

Okay then...

When I said "the loopy, addicted 'oh my god, no more angel' fans" it was a sweeping statement. It was a sweeping statement, said (well, typed anyway) with my tongue firmly in my cheek. It wasn't meant as an insult, but of course you're entitled to your opinion and feelings, so if you wish to take it as an insult, then please do. (Note: tongue firmly in cheek again)

Having said that, there are a lot of people who go way, way over the top in celebrity/television show worship, and i don't think using the word 'loopy', which is not a particularly harsh word, is very far over the top, if over the top at all.

---

by Maffrew
(quotes)
Having said that, there are a lot of people who go way, way over the top in celebrity/television show worship, and i don't think using the word 'loopy', which is not a particularly harsh word, is very far over the top, if over the top at all.

---

I can't argue with that. Having seen a large cross section of Angel fans at End Of Days last year, many of them do go way over the top. As others will say, at times it did almost spoil what was a great con when you get people, admittedly young girls, get hysterical just because one of the cast walked past them. They swarm round them like groupies and would pass out if the likes of Vincent Kartheiser read the Yellow Pages. I'm hoping that Hyperion will be better because it has a much reduced number of attendees.

Anyway, back to the point, one or two TV movies may work but no more than that. Just to wrap up the series properly. But, five seasons is more than enough these days for a show. I don't agree with how the WB went about it but it's amazing how quickly you can get over a show when it's finished. Shows come and go, that's the nature of things.

I wouldn't say I was ever addicted to Buffy and certainly not Angel, but I was very into the plots and characterisation when they were on-air. I've never been to a convention, so the whole groupie stage unfortunately passed me and the cast by (their loss entirely ). To be honest I'm just not that interested in the cast: not that I don't enjoy reading interviews and seeing their take on their characters, but they're just people doing a job to me. I like to compartmentalise fantasy and reality: Joss's world has always been escapist fun, nothing more.

Since I got a new DVD player I've been really getting into Buffy again. The series is better than I remembered. The characterisation and plotting are inspired, and the dialogue touches on greatness at times: but I wasn't remotely dissapointed when Buffy went because it had become such a shadow of its former self. I think that's far, far worse than being cancelled cos it ruins the series' rep and all those fond memories. It's always a shame if a promising series dies too soon to shine, but I think Angel's had ample opportunity, and was already one the wane. So being glass half full guy, happy the Big Poofter gets to retire with style.


(Edited by Byron 02/05/2004 20:19)

Leaving this little tangent ...

---

by Maffrew
Well, WB have made it well known that after Angel finishes as a series they are going to make anywhere up to six two hour tv-movies. But are they going to?

Mercedes McNab is reported (by Dark Horizons as having said that although the WB are saying they are going to make these tv movies, none of the cast have been approached to sign contracts, and if they are supposed to air in the fall, this is when the contracts should be getting sorted. According to McNab, 'they think' (they being the cast, i assume) that the WB may be using the TV movie idea as a way to placate fans until the show is over.

Now, this could go either way. If the WB actually pulled a stunt like that there would be out-cry from a large section of... the loopy, addicted 'oh my god, no more angel' fans, which, let's face it, isn't that many. Normal people tend not to be too fussed when shows end, especially not Angel.

So, what do you reckon? are WB playing a game, or is McNab just jumping to conclusions too soon?

---

I don't see any reason WB would mention TV movies if they weren't a real possibility: other shows far bigger than Angel are just cancelled, and as you've said, stringing the fans along would kick up a storm of negative publicity.

WB are above all else a business, and from what I know of commercial TV a lack of interest from advertisers would be the most likely explanation. Maybe trailing the TV movies was a device to see if there was the commercial interest, and this hasn't materialised? Or someone could simply have changed their minds.

i've only read the first couple of posts on this thread and then stopped because someone posted something that was kinda spoilery... please can people remember when discussing this that a lot of us haven't seen all of season 5 of angel and have no idea how it ends...

---

by Sydney
i've only read the first couple of posts on this thread and then stopped because someone posted something that was kinda spoilery... please can people remember when discussing this that a lot of us haven't seen all of season 5 of angel and have no idea how it ends...

---

Wo's post is just speculation: Joss has a bit of a track record here! Season five finale hasn't aired yet, so none of us knows how it ends.

Yes, I dont know specifically how the series ends, but I did read someones observations that it wasnt a neat wrap up, as if it had been a planned series ender, and concluded that a TV movie would be an idea way to resolve any hanging plot points, whatever they may be, dont read anything more into it than that.

---

by Keenangel
We were upset at the WB's decision to cancel this show (and for some reason, renew Charmed? )

---

You must have been on the same site I perused I can stand to watch 'Charmed' if I stumble across an episode, but 'Angel' is the one worth saving if it's a choice. Lines like Spike's 'Tell me we're not Scoobies', and Angel's response to 'You'd wanna be Angel's Avengers, or something' make it the better show, but go figure.

I recall something about 'The Pretender' movies, but I never saw one. Hope that's not a bad sign.

I read that David is interested in taking over Luke Perry's stage role of Harry in "When Harry Met Sally".

Really? where did you read that?

---

by Keenangel
Really? where did you read that?

---

Here.

I actually did read about this a little later... thanks for the link Dan... very interesting

Well that's just freaky!

A shame Ms Hannigan is heading back Stateside, because I might well have gone to see the play if both of them were in it: some things are just too surreal to be missed.